Curse

zidane888 · Nov 02, 2009, 03:20 AM // 03:20

Yep, my mistake.

ShadowsRequiem · Nov 02, 2009, 04:47 AM // 04:47

Wow grats Tzu... dunno how ppl can say thats a wintersday costume, maybe you're all salty for getting beaten so bad :F I mean really, its halloween.. you know that holiday where you're suppose to DRESS UP as something.

Jeezzz.

AngelWJedi · Nov 02, 2009, 03:16 PM // 15:16

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Originally Posted by ShadowsRequiem

Wow grats Tzu... dunno how ppl can say thats a wintersday costume, maybe you're all salty for getting beaten so bad :F I mean really, its halloween.. you know that holiday where you're suppose to DRESS UP as something.

Jeezzz.

1) i think cause since jora is a norn then it has to do with wintersday. their was quest during wintersday with norns.
2) it was a "art" contest when people think of art the first thing that pops into head is a painting not a costume. xD

so thats my theory.

Tramp · Nov 02, 2009, 03:26 PM // 15:26

Ok, i can kind of see it is a flesh golem now in #2 after staring at it for 3 days. My next question is wtheck does that have to do with halloween? This is a halloween theme contest, not "just make any old thing in gw" contest.

Kurald Galain · Nov 02, 2009, 03:32 PM // 15:32

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Originally Posted by Tramp

Ok, i can kind of see it is a flesh golem now in #2 after staring at it for 3 days. My next question is wtheck does that have to do with halloween? This is a halloween theme contest, not "just make any old thing in gw" contest.

Well it's link to Halloween could be that you can consider it as a GW-themed Halloween house decoration. So it can be linked to Halloween.

AngelWJedi · Nov 02, 2009, 03:46 PM // 15:46

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Originally Posted by Kurald Galain

Well it's link to Halloween could be that you can consider it as a GW-themed Halloween house decoration. So it can be linked to Halloween.

thats like saying if i took orange paint and painted boo on my house i could consider it a haunt house. lols

Kha · Nov 02, 2009, 03:53 PM // 15:53

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Originally Posted by Kurald Galain

Well it's link to Halloween could be that you can consider it as a GW-themed Halloween house decoration. So it can be linked to Halloween.

If so, then pretty much any monster from GW could've been made, drawn, painted, etc and it would've counted in the contest. The fact is that it is not a Halloween-themed entry at all, and it's not the only non-Halloween entry to have placed. But apparently that fact doesn't matter - it's only a Halloween contest after all. Who's silly enough to follow the contest rules? The judges clearly aren't.

Fril Estelin · Nov 02, 2009, 04:04 PM // 16:04

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it's only a Halloween contest after all

When a submitted artpiece is great, shall it be removed because it's not "purely" Halloween? Sure, people can complain that they would have drawn something different if they knew that they could have gotten away with the "there has to be some element of traditional Halloween in it" implicit rule. But it's only a game.

Which makes the 2 plagiarism attempts so ridiculous.

I only wish that Anet could release most of the submitted artwork, I'd spend an hour or two just browsing it!

Reformed · Nov 02, 2009, 04:09 PM // 16:09

Well if there is anything to be learned from this it's that if you want to win 1st place you have to be a cosplayer. I actually looked and 4 out of 5 of the annual Halloween art contest grand prize winners were costumes. In fact we are now on a 4 year streak. Takes nothing away from the contest itself and absolutely congratulations to the winners but, come on Anet...

Oh, and I don't see why folks were bashing last years Gwen. I have to say whoever she is she's beautiful.

Verene · Nov 02, 2009, 04:18 PM // 16:18

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I only wish that Anet could release most of the submitted artwork, I'd spend an hour or two just browsing it!

Agreed! We had so many awesome submissions just from the Nolani Workshop, I would love to see everything else that was submitted and see what sort of art everyone did. That would be awesome.

Operative 14 · Nov 02, 2009, 04:22 PM // 16:22

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Oh, and I don't see why folks were bashing last years Gwen. I have to say whoever she is she's beautiful.

The only issue I had with it was that it was a cosplay that was released earlier that year, not made specifically for the contest, and the judges already knew about that piece from before their 'blind' judging. It was very well done regardless and I don't begrudge her winning, however.

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I only wish that Anet could release most of the submitted artwork, I'd spend an hour or two just browsing it!

Indeed! If it was a hard decision I'd love to see what didn't win!

Though I can imagine the resources it would take to upload it all and make separate webpages for each. >_<

Arduin · Nov 02, 2009, 04:23 PM // 16:23

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If so, then pretty much any monster from GW could've been made, drawn, painted, etc and it would've counted in the contest. The fact is that it is not a Halloween-themed entry at all, and it's not the only non-Halloween entry to have placed. But apparently that fact doesn't matter - it's only a Halloween contest after all. Who's silly enough to follow the contest rules? The judges clearly aren't.

The Cardboard Golem is scary. Halloween is about scary stuff. There you go.

lorenna · Nov 02, 2009, 04:34 PM // 16:34

honestly every year besides this 1 i have always agreed with the judging..this year anet diddnt even follow their own rules for judging. the costume i agree with even if it is jora..people dress up as things on halloween that have nothing to do with halloween. the bone minion while its cool..has nothing what so ever to do with halloween. it wasnt the guild wars art contest..it was the guild wars HALLOWEEN art contest. so wheres the halloween element?

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Entries will be judged on the basis of creativity, style, and the melding of Halloween into a Guild Wars theme.

the bone minion thing does not meld halloween with guild wars.the siege turtle only has pumpkins stuck on it..the other siege tutle on this thread melds halloween better it has a whole halloween themed display. the giant effigy thing or whatever it is nobody can even tell..looks nothing like guild wars or halloween.

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Originality: Entries must be the original creation of the contestant and cannot be taken from any other source. Your submission must not infringe on any patent, copyright, trademark or other intellectual property right, or any privacy, publicity or publishing rights of any third party, or be libelous, obscene or otherwise contrary to law. Please, no clip art, tracings, or art from other sources such as games, movies, or books.

we have already had one entry disqualified the one who stole off DA..but now we have found another entry which uses a third party work..the mad king thorn make your own cube thing..and the guy who owns the website even says he does not allow people to use his work for compitition. and anet have not even comented on it as of yet or looked into it when its blatently taken off there. also the tattoo is done by a third person
honestly i dont see why anet even bothered putting rules in place when they dont follow their own rules..and then we get winners who diddnt follow the rules ..and those who did were not even considered. like for example that rit with the tot bags..it did exactly what it was ment to do..it was creative it was nice to look at and it melded halloween and guild wars. it had more halloween in it than that bone minion..in fact the bone minion had none at all..lol.

next year maybe anet should consider calling it the guild wars art contest seeing as they chose winners that had no halloween in them..either that or choose some new judges..the rest of the winners were perfect though and did what they should have done..and im not bashing any1's entry because that bone minion is still amazing and looked like a lot of work went into it..i justt dont see the halloween theme...i still have the greatest respect for the art work though because i wouldnt be able to do it..the tattoo was a good idea not something any1 has done before but it had a third party involved which it should not have the turtle was still good but the other melded halloween better..the cube thingy tho was some1 else idea just mad king thorn stuck on there instead.

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According to the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary, to "plagiarize" means:
* to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own
* to use (another's production) without crediting the source
* to commit literary theft
* to present as new and original an idea or product derived from an existing source.

In other words, plagiarism is an act of fraud. It involves both stealing someone else's work and lying about it afterward.

this idea has been stolen off some1 else and passed off as the entrants own work without giving credit to the person whos idea it was. i do college essays everyday and while i use others ideas in them..i make footnotes and bibliographys crediting those whom they came from..if i diddnt and still used their ideas my work could an automatic 0 and i run the risk fo being kicked from my university.
as i said i am not bashing any's entry they are all still good but some did not follow the rules as they were ment to..and the judging was..well anet did not judge on what they said they would and maybe should rethink for next year..

Tzu · Nov 02, 2009, 04:38 PM // 16:38

I guess with a win you always have to take some salt from the crowd! ^-^

Thanks for kind comments in-game and here!

1.) Costume-making is Art

2.) Costume-making is in the spirit of Halloween.
The tradition goes all the way back to Halloween's roots in Samhain: "It is believed that the need to ward off harmful spirits led to the wearing of costumes and masks. Their purpose was to disguise oneself as a harmful spirit and thus avoid harm" (Wikipedia Article)

It really isn't up to debate.

lorenna · Nov 02, 2009, 04:44 PM // 16:44

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Originally Posted by Tzu

I guess with a win you always have to take some salt from the crowd! ^-^

Thanks for kind comments in-game and here!

1.) Costume-making is Art

2.) Costume-making is in the spirit of Halloween.
The tradition goes all the way back to Halloween's roots in Samhain: "It is believed that the need to ward off harmful spirits led to the wearing of costumes and masks. Their purpose was to disguise oneself as a harmful spirit and thus avoid harm" (Wikipedia Article)

It really isn't up to debate.

i still agree tzu what you did is art and a lot of work went into it..i liked both jora from this year and gwen from last year it was amazing and deserved a win..i diddnt even dress up as anything to do with halloween this year it was still a costume though lol

Odinius · Nov 02, 2009, 04:47 PM // 16:47

Jora <3
Although the cubee thing is kinda ripped, still, the idea is nice enough to be a winner imo.
Other winners are also deserved winners even if some others should be in winners section too.
You can never please all, but I have an idea...
So how about it ArenaNet? Free mini for all participants???? ^^

KiyaKoreena · Nov 02, 2009, 05:03 PM // 17:03

The costume/art thing comes up every year. I made my opinion on the matter clear 2 years ago. I am curious as to what order some of the detractors think winners should have been (including Nolani and other entries posted on this thread). Just for fun.

Deviant Angel · Nov 02, 2009, 05:06 PM // 17:06

Some of you need to stop going apeshit over something that was discovered on a weekend. I have a feeling they will make a decision about how to handle the cube art submission and make a post about it sometime today. It's a bit silly to expect Anet employees to be on-call 24/7 to take care of issues that could easily be handled during business hours.

The guy gets a few more hours of fame, so what? The prizes won't be given out until later this week, so no real damage has been done. It simply means Anet needs to pick 2 more HM if they choose to remove the cube art. No big deal. To be fair, how could they have known? Until the link was posted here, I had no clue what cube art was and I'm sure most of you didn't as well.

...and um, free mini for all participants? Isn't that a bit of a slap in the face to the people that got honorable mention or higher? It's an art contest, not a give-away.

Kurald Galain · Nov 02, 2009, 07:19 PM // 19:19

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Originally Posted by Kha

If so, then pretty much any monster from GW could've been made, drawn, painted, etc and it would've counted in the contest. The fact is that it is not a Halloween-themed entry at all, and it's not the only non-Halloween entry to have placed. But apparently that fact doesn't matter - it's only a Halloween contest after all. Who's silly enough to follow the contest rules? The judges clearly aren't.

I think you misunderstood what i meant. It could be seen as GW themed decoration for your house. If you draw/paint whatever a monster from GW it wouldn't fit the Halloween-themed thing imo. But if it was made as decoration for your house (like to put into your front yard or your party room) then i could consider any monster as a Halloween themed as monsters are usually put outside during that time.

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Originally Posted by AngelWJedi

thats like saying if i took orange paint and painted boo on my house i could consider it a haunt house. lols

Course you could but i doub't you'd win anything

edit: actually thinking about it i think you'd not qualify as it's not GW themed

Kha · Nov 02, 2009, 07:32 PM // 19:32

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Originally Posted by Kurald Galain

I think you misunderstood what i meant. It could be seen as GW themed decoration for your house. If you draw/paint whatever a monster from GW it wouldn't fit the Halloween-themed thing imo. But if it was made as decoration for your house (like to put into your front yard or your party room) then i could consider any monster as a Halloween themed as monsters are usually put outside during that time.

I understand what you mean, but not only sculptures are used as decoration. Could very well use a painting or drawing to spruce up a Halloween party room. Just because it might be a bit scary and can be used as a decoration is a far-stretch from being a melding of GW and Halloween.